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		By: Joanna Delia		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2014 19:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi all.... I am a mother of 2 and a doctor

Please note that infant mortality rate has been reduced by 85% since the 50s due to interventions by doctors and midwives. Also note http://www.2womenshealth.com/Postpartum/Maternal-Mortality.htm - the graph is shocking...

I would seriously recommend to please refrain from portraying personal experiences as sacro santo fact. Relax and try to relay on the proffessionals. I am sure that no one working at any hospital is intent on worsening anyone s labour experience, nor certainly to endanger anyone s life... Any procedure done is based on individual and circumferential parameters. And most importantly all are done to safegaurd life. (And quality of life... Episiotomies for instance, as horrible as they may sound, make sure the &#039;natural tear&#039; does not happen in a way that makes you incontinent to urine or faeces for the rest of your life)

Please relax... We are lucky to have good, trained professionals. 

Take a deep breath and prepare for a roller coaster ride... You will leave hospital with a story...an adventure... But also with a precious baby....

And please feel free to tell your story to the world, but unless you have had 20 babies, witnessed 100s of labours, have a medical degree, and read 1000s of studies (and not just a handful), do not try to portray your story as a bible for what to do and what to avoid...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all&#8230;. I am a mother of 2 and a doctor</p>
<p>Please note that infant mortality rate has been reduced by 85% since the 50s due to interventions by doctors and midwives. Also note <a href="http://www.2womenshealth.com/Postpartum/Maternal-Mortality.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.2womenshealth.com/Postpartum/Maternal-Mortality.htm</a> &#8211; the graph is shocking&#8230;</p>
<p>I would seriously recommend to please refrain from portraying personal experiences as sacro santo fact. Relax and try to relay on the proffessionals. I am sure that no one working at any hospital is intent on worsening anyone s labour experience, nor certainly to endanger anyone s life&#8230; Any procedure done is based on individual and circumferential parameters. And most importantly all are done to safegaurd life. (And quality of life&#8230; Episiotomies for instance, as horrible as they may sound, make sure the &#8216;natural tear&#8217; does not happen in a way that makes you incontinent to urine or faeces for the rest of your life)</p>
<p>Please relax&#8230; We are lucky to have good, trained professionals. </p>
<p>Take a deep breath and prepare for a roller coaster ride&#8230; You will leave hospital with a story&#8230;an adventure&#8230; But also with a precious baby&#8230;.</p>
<p>And please feel free to tell your story to the world, but unless you have had 20 babies, witnessed 100s of labours, have a medical degree, and read 1000s of studies (and not just a handful), do not try to portray your story as a bible for what to do and what to avoid&#8230;</p>
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		By: Grech Charmaine		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grech Charmaine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let nature do its work unless there are actual or potential complications.  Don&#039;t let anybody bother you by their stories. Every pregnancy and every birth has its own story. Midwives are trained to do their job and what is good for one birth may not have the same effect on the other. Enjoy your pregnancy. It is unique. Let God guide you. Good luck!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let nature do its work unless there are actual or potential complications.  Don&#039;t let anybody bother you by their stories. Every pregnancy and every birth has its own story. Midwives are trained to do their job and what is good for one birth may not have the same effect on the other. Enjoy your pregnancy. It is unique. Let God guide you. Good luck!</p>
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		By: Charleen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked as a nursing student  for three months in the delivery suite and beleive m its not the midwives choice to induce laboure, to tell you the truth they are against it at all costs but once you ave orders from the ob/gyn you have to do them. I really enjoyed my work experience there and i learned a lot i am 21 weeks pregnant now and looking forward to experience it :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked as a nursing student  for three months in the delivery suite and beleive m its not the midwives choice to induce laboure, to tell you the truth they are against it at all costs but once you ave orders from the ob/gyn you have to do them. I really enjoyed my work experience there and i learned a lot i am 21 weeks pregnant now and looking forward to experience it 🙂</p>
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		By: Aliki		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My doc made me the ARM and that lead me to a ceasarian directly... Better to be avoided.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My doc made me the ARM and that lead me to a ceasarian directly&#8230; Better to be avoided.</p>
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		By: Aliki Douvou		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aliki Douvou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2014 10:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My doc made me the ARM and that lead me to a ceasarian directly... Better to be avoided.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My doc made me the ARM and that lead me to a ceasarian directly&#8230; Better to be avoided.</p>
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		By: Kathi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 20:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Liza: Glad to hear this :) I hope I don&#039;t go in to the hospital too early. Well, I will see

I have no doubt that in your case the episiotomy was truly necessary. Again I was referring to completely normal progressing births. And I believe a lot of medical interventions that constrain women to the bed during labor might also make episiotomies more necessary. First of all, it is a lot harder to push your baby out when you are on your back and secondly all throughout labor changing position and using gravity helps (which is of course not possible any longer when you need to be on the monitor, have an epidural etc). But in any case, necessary or not, you should be informed before they cut you (Which I am sure they do. I must have misunderstood Kelly here).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Liza: Glad to hear this 🙂 I hope I don&#8217;t go in to the hospital too early. Well, I will see</p>
<p>I have no doubt that in your case the episiotomy was truly necessary. Again I was referring to completely normal progressing births. And I believe a lot of medical interventions that constrain women to the bed during labor might also make episiotomies more necessary. First of all, it is a lot harder to push your baby out when you are on your back and secondly all throughout labor changing position and using gravity helps (which is of course not possible any longer when you need to be on the monitor, have an epidural etc). But in any case, necessary or not, you should be informed before they cut you (Which I am sure they do. I must have misunderstood Kelly here).</p>
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		By: liza		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 19:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Kathi &quot;I was told that at Mater Dei they give you 4 hours to progress from arrival.&quot; -&gt; this is not true. At least it wasn&#039;t true in my case. I was given a delivery room at around 11:00 in the morning and gave birth at 01:20 late at night.

Regarding the episiotomy, I assume that like in my case, at this stage it was necessary for Kelly. The baby was descending with the wrong side of the head and they had to pull it out. I was in pain for at least 2 weeks after birth. Painful to sit, painful to go to the toilet, horrible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathi &#8220;I was told that at Mater Dei they give you 4 hours to progress from arrival.&#8221; -> this is not true. At least it wasn&#8217;t true in my case. I was given a delivery room at around 11:00 in the morning and gave birth at 01:20 late at night.</p>
<p>Regarding the episiotomy, I assume that like in my case, at this stage it was necessary for Kelly. The baby was descending with the wrong side of the head and they had to pull it out. I was in pain for at least 2 weeks after birth. Painful to sit, painful to go to the toilet, horrible.</p>
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		By: liza		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been reading the book &#039;A Midwife&#039;s Story&#039; and the midwife there describes (in the 60s-70s) how she felt hopeless working in a hospital cause she had to follow guidelines and procedures which were not for the benefit of the mother giving birth but for the hospital and for the sake of formality. She knew certain things could and should have been done differently, but she had no option. Things don&#039;t seem to be much different nowadays. Hospital midwives, no matter the country, need to follow guidelines and procedures given by higher above.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been reading the book &#8216;A Midwife&#8217;s Story&#8217; and the midwife there describes (in the 60s-70s) how she felt hopeless working in a hospital cause she had to follow guidelines and procedures which were not for the benefit of the mother giving birth but for the hospital and for the sake of formality. She knew certain things could and should have been done differently, but she had no option. Things don&#8217;t seem to be much different nowadays. Hospital midwives, no matter the country, need to follow guidelines and procedures given by higher above.</p>
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		By: Kathi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kathi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Kelly: May I ask you whether you gave them your permission to do the episiotomy? From what I read it sounds they did not even inform you that they were going to perform one. If that is the case, I find this scandalous. 

Episiotomy is also one of those interventions that medicals nowadays seem to make frequent use of without always being necessary. I know for sure that in Germany the rate increased over the years but now criticism has arisen. An episiotomy might make healing harder and definitely more painful. I know of one woman (in Germany) who had trouble walking and sitting for three weeks post-birth. And it increases the risk of tearing the scar on further births. If you leave women to tear naturally (if so), usually the tissues tend to break at their weakest point, making healing easier. Seems to me that an episiotomy in many cases unfortunately is another measure to speed up the process of labor. 

Like Liza I think a lot of the procedures and measures taken nowadays are not necessarily related to an increase of risky births but to the economy of the hospitals. If hospitals can calculate and &quot;schedule&quot; births a bit better, they can be more efficient. What is good for the hospital is not always good for the patient. I was told that at Mater Dei they give you 4 hours to progress from arrival. If you do not make enough progress in their eyes they put you on the drip to help the contractions get stronger. I don&#039;t know whether this is true but if it is the case, it shows that it is obviously done for reasons of getting the labor over with fast. Nearly the same counts for inductions (which are also more likely to end up in a c-section).

I don&#039;t want to talk anything bad or be overcritical. I am sure there are very dedicated and experienced good midwives and staff at Mater Dei. And I am sure they are very helpful and do whatever they can. But maybe with one public hospital for the whole island their situation is predetermined with thinking economically.

However I still opted  to give birth there (instead of St James) and I will leave a birth story here and share my own experience with Mater Dei afterwards.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kelly: May I ask you whether you gave them your permission to do the episiotomy? From what I read it sounds they did not even inform you that they were going to perform one. If that is the case, I find this scandalous. </p>
<p>Episiotomy is also one of those interventions that medicals nowadays seem to make frequent use of without always being necessary. I know for sure that in Germany the rate increased over the years but now criticism has arisen. An episiotomy might make healing harder and definitely more painful. I know of one woman (in Germany) who had trouble walking and sitting for three weeks post-birth. And it increases the risk of tearing the scar on further births. If you leave women to tear naturally (if so), usually the tissues tend to break at their weakest point, making healing easier. Seems to me that an episiotomy in many cases unfortunately is another measure to speed up the process of labor. </p>
<p>Like Liza I think a lot of the procedures and measures taken nowadays are not necessarily related to an increase of risky births but to the economy of the hospitals. If hospitals can calculate and &#8220;schedule&#8221; births a bit better, they can be more efficient. What is good for the hospital is not always good for the patient. I was told that at Mater Dei they give you 4 hours to progress from arrival. If you do not make enough progress in their eyes they put you on the drip to help the contractions get stronger. I don&#8217;t know whether this is true but if it is the case, it shows that it is obviously done for reasons of getting the labor over with fast. Nearly the same counts for inductions (which are also more likely to end up in a c-section).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to talk anything bad or be overcritical. I am sure there are very dedicated and experienced good midwives and staff at Mater Dei. And I am sure they are very helpful and do whatever they can. But maybe with one public hospital for the whole island their situation is predetermined with thinking economically.</p>
<p>However I still opted  to give birth there (instead of St James) and I will leave a birth story here and share my own experience with Mater Dei afterwards.</p>
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		By: liza		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 14:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I fear is that sometimes they might want to rush things. In my case, one of the midwives who were attending me and who broke my water, she was expecting in this way I would give birth during her shift. That didn&#039;t happen and 2 other midwives had to take over afterwards. In hospital terms, I can imagine this might mean more money spent on a patient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I fear is that sometimes they might want to rush things. In my case, one of the midwives who were attending me and who broke my water, she was expecting in this way I would give birth during her shift. That didn&#8217;t happen and 2 other midwives had to take over afterwards. In hospital terms, I can imagine this might mean more money spent on a patient.</p>
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